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this particular interview we're about to

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do

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this is a this is a man who's in the us

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military who's had experiences he says

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uh relating to knowledge of e.t the e.t

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presence here on earth

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uh we know he is who he says he was this

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is a this is a man who's

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in the u.s military we know he is who he

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says he was

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this is a man who's in the u.s military

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we know he is who he says he was is who

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he says he was

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this next question comes from steven

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cambion he wants to know

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how do you feel about your participation

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in the cia death bed confession

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interview

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i'm unsure what that is but many people

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keep referencing that in the comments

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section

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now that other researchers have proven

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quote-unquote

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that man was not who he said he was and

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never worked

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i guess i should get up on top of that

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one um i'll just say this look

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i met him i met his son-in-law i got to

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know his son-in-law pretty well

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this man had been a witness uh back in

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the 90s for linda moulton howe

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um yeah maybe he's just pulling a yarn i

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mean the way it happened look i can't

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i can't know before i before i go in to

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interview someone every every single

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way it's going to turn out i can't be

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you can't make me like apologize for

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every

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if i make a mistake i've made mistakes

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what am i supposed to do go cower into a

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cave like it just happened

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so this man um if that's true i

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i promised this because i actually

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didn't know i wasn't on top of this

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so i'll look into it and um if that's

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the case i'll make i'll make my own

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statement

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but the thing is i wasn't i never really

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knew what to make of it i was asked

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in uh 2013 very beginning of 2013.

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to interview this man i was told he was

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an important witness

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i'm like well okay it was actually

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linda's case

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and i i didn't want to take it

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but the impression that i got which

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turned out to be not true

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was that linda wasn't going to do it

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turns out linda just didn't know that it

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was being done i think she would have

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easily done it

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so i i went up there he was in northern

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minnesota

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and i went with a few other people i'll

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leave their names off ron the late ron

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garner

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who he's no longer with us he was the

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one who really pushed this case

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and um i was like all right well i'll

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interview him i did my best to get on

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top of it

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i met with him he was a very sweet man i

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thought he was going to die

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in front of me like during much of this

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interview his health was

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terrible but i will tell you this i

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spoke to his son-in-law who was a

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theology student at the time these are

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very like

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he's a good people and the son said yep

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i've heard this man's story

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for years he's never wavered

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so all i did was i interviewed him and i

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did my best

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you know sometimes the best isn't good

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enough uh

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i didn't i didn't go through a detailed

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background check if no i didn't

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you know so if it's been proven to be a

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mistake then well

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these are the breaks uh this is a this

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is a man who's

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in the u.s military we know he

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is who he says he was we know he is who

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he says he was

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i didn't i didn't go through a detailed

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background check of him no i didn't

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we know he is who he says he was

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i didn't i didn't go through a detailed

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background check of him no i didn't

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uh we know he is who he says he was

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and look i can't i can't know before i

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before i go in to interview someone

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every every single way is going to turn

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out

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and i can't be you can't make me like

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apologize for every

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if i make a mistake i've made mistakes

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what am i supposed to do go cower into a

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cave like it just happened

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uh i didn't i didn't go through a

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detailed background check if a no i

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didn't

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you can't make me like apologize for

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i promise this because i actually didn't

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know i wasn't on top of this

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so i'll look into it and um if that's